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		<title>Comment on Ex-Gwent chief: Ministers should revisit PCC legislation by Kevin Morris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another jumping to unnecessary conclusions by the Keith Vaz road show desperate to try to justify their overblown expenses and self importance.
When is someone going to set up a full inquiry into wasting taxpayers money on too many MP&#039;s doing too little about things the public actually get upset about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another jumping to unnecessary conclusions by the Keith Vaz road show desperate to try to justify their overblown expenses and self importance.<br />
When is someone going to set up a full inquiry into wasting taxpayers money on too many MP&#8217;s doing too little about things the public actually get upset about?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dale Cregan&#8217;s costly security was a high-speed farce by Kevin Morris</title>
		<link>http://blog.old-and-bold.info/?p=19794#comment-16972</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well this is a new low even for the Guardian and Mr Allison in particular. 
&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;“look at all the armed officers needed to guard this defendant. He must be dangerous, therefore must be guilty.”&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/em&gt;Considering he pleaded guilty to three murders, including the shooting, and then using a hand grenade, of two unarmed women police officers that comment seems to be rather obsolete as demonstrated by the last paragraph!
As for the former high ranking Met Officer he clearly falls into the same category as Mr Allison, and everyone else not involved including me, no evidence, no intelligence, no bloody idea. Does this moron really think GMP set out to waste £5 million when he was going to prison for life anyway? Have they considered the anger and distress caused by this &quot;small-time criminal&quot; who murdered his way into infamy? Perhaps the  convoy was there to avoid Cregan being assassinated on route or at least seriously injured which no doubt would have then involved Allison criticising the police for their lack of care over his journey.
This article says more about the appalling motives of a third rate hack than anything that GMP have to explain. His tautological argument is about as close to decent reporting as the jurors would have been to seeing the Cregan convoy or knowing it was him in there anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well this is a new low even for the Guardian and Mr Allison in particular.<br />
<em><strong>“look at all the armed officers needed to guard this defendant. He must be dangerous, therefore must be guilty.”</strong> </em>Considering he pleaded guilty to three murders, including the shooting, and then using a hand grenade, of two unarmed women police officers that comment seems to be rather obsolete as demonstrated by the last paragraph!<br />
As for the former high ranking Met Officer he clearly falls into the same category as Mr Allison, and everyone else not involved including me, no evidence, no intelligence, no bloody idea. Does this moron really think GMP set out to waste £5 million when he was going to prison for life anyway? Have they considered the anger and distress caused by this &#8220;small-time criminal&#8221; who murdered his way into infamy? Perhaps the  convoy was there to avoid Cregan being assassinated on route or at least seriously injured which no doubt would have then involved Allison criticising the police for their lack of care over his journey.<br />
This article says more about the appalling motives of a third rate hack than anything that GMP have to explain. His tautological argument is about as close to decent reporting as the jurors would have been to seeing the Cregan convoy or knowing it was him in there anyway.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Surrey officer recognised in the Queen&#8217;s Birthday Honours by Kevin Morris</title>
		<link>http://blog.old-and-bold.info/?p=19786#comment-16970</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Morris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 21:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John is a lovely guy who has dedicated himself to policing and the community. His work at Dunsfold and then the wider rural communities in Surrey is something he can be proud of. A QPM is a wonderful award for his hard work and dedication.
Sadly I do not know PC Trezise but I offer him my warmest congratulations.
Us oldies can still recognise quality and dedication when we see it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John is a lovely guy who has dedicated himself to policing and the community. His work at Dunsfold and then the wider rural communities in Surrey is something he can be proud of. A QPM is a wonderful award for his hard work and dedication.<br />
Sadly I do not know PC Trezise but I offer him my warmest congratulations.<br />
Us oldies can still recognise quality and dedication when we see it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Surrey officer recognised in the Queen&#8217;s Birthday Honours by surreywebmaster</title>
		<link>http://blog.old-and-bold.info/?p=19786#comment-16967</link>
		<dc:creator>surreywebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 17:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations to PC Hockley, a great acheivement.  

It would appear that PC John Hockley and PC Mark Trezise have also jointly won the Community bobby of the year award.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to PC Hockley, a great acheivement.  </p>
<p>It would appear that PC John Hockley and PC Mark Trezise have also jointly won the Community bobby of the year award.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ex-Gwent chief: Ministers should revisit PCC legislation by surreywebmaster</title>
		<link>http://blog.old-and-bold.info/?p=19596#comment-16963</link>
		<dc:creator>surreywebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 14:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/14/police-crime-commissioners-role-gwent&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Police and crime commissioners role to be investigated after Gwent ousting&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;The role, effectiveness and powers of the new police and crime commissioners will be the subject of a full inquiry by an influential committee of MPs. The home affairs select committee moved to set up the inquiry on Friday in the wake of the ousting of the chief constable of Gwent by the local elected commissioner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/14/police-crime-commissioners-role-gwent" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Police and crime commissioners role to be investigated after Gwent ousting</a></strong></p>
<blockquote><p>The role, effectiveness and powers of the new police and crime commissioners will be the subject of a full inquiry by an influential committee of MPs. The home affairs select committee moved to set up the inquiry on Friday in the wake of the ousting of the chief constable of Gwent by the local elected commissioner.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on David Cameron: Britain&#8217;s police are only &#8216;relatively honest&#8217; by surreywebmaster</title>
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		<dc:creator>surreywebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 08:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have a cousin who is six months older than me who has been in the NHS all her working life.  I won&#039;t embarrass her by saying her age but if she is six months older than me there is the clue.  She has a wide NHS experience over many years, (since the early 60&#039;s) nurse, sister, midwife, matron, etc. etc.  Still working as head practice nurse at a Dr&#039;s in Somerset, (has come across one or two Old &amp; Bolder&#039;s down there).

She has been in hospital recently for an operation and found a lot to be desired.  Much like the police service that once was the envy of the world, the NHS, (management), has forgotten it main mission statement, that of putting people first.  

Your example Robin is an excellent one that, at one time, would have been dealt with in the commonsense manner you describe.  However, due to management constraints which are often argued on the grounds of &#039;cost savings&#039;, staff now have to follow set procedures instead of using their instincts.  Failure to do so leaves them open to possible dismissal and they could even find themselves being sued if it went wrong and they had not followed &#039;orders&#039;.  

In the example you have given it is patently obvious that not only has en elderly patient suffered unnecessarily but costs have also increased.  So what happened to letting professionals get on with the job that they have been trained for and are paid to do?  Maybe the problem is the training regime has been cut to save money?

I will finish on a positive note though with this tale.  My brother&#039;s 8 year old granddaughter went into Boots the Chemist for an eye test a couple of weeks ago because she was having problems with her sight.  The optometrist got part way through the test and said to her mum she was very concerned about what appeared to be pressure on the optic nerves. 

She asked permission to phone the local hospital. The hospital accepted her immediately and gave her an MRI which detected a tumour on the left side of her brain.  The hospital immediately contacted a hospital in Bristol: that hospital being a specialist Neurological/Children’s unit.  

By 0100 she was in an ambulance which arrived at Bristol around 0300hrs.   She was given pre-op preparation and by mid-day was in theatre for a 4 hour op.   The surgeon removed a tumour – they think cleanly – the size of a marble.   The little girl has made remarkable recovery.

She is now home – less than a week in hospital!

The worry now centres around the results of the biopsy; which has been sent to Memphis Tennessee for analysis!??

Depending upon the grade of the tumour she could face chemo for some time.  It is possible that, if the tumour is the lowest grade, there will be no further action; other than monitoring.

It must be said that the NHS pulled out all the stops for the little girl (just 8).  Within 24 hours of diagnosis the tumour had been removed.  All that is evident is a small plaster on the side of her head.

As with the police service there is much good work going on, it is that good work that should be fostered and encouraged and that is done by putting the right people in the job with the right training in the first place and then by allowing those highly qualified professionals to do the job which they have the knowledge and expertise for.  

Paying for that knowledge and experience should not be the worry for them as saving lives carries a big enough burden.  The cost of saving lives and caring is somebody elses problem but whoever decides on those budgets should remember what the NHS, (and police service), exists for in the first place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a cousin who is six months older than me who has been in the NHS all her working life.  I won&#8217;t embarrass her by saying her age but if she is six months older than me there is the clue.  She has a wide NHS experience over many years, (since the early 60&#8242;s) nurse, sister, midwife, matron, etc. etc.  Still working as head practice nurse at a Dr&#8217;s in Somerset, (has come across one or two Old &#038; Bolder&#8217;s down there).</p>
<p>She has been in hospital recently for an operation and found a lot to be desired.  Much like the police service that once was the envy of the world, the NHS, (management), has forgotten it main mission statement, that of putting people first.  </p>
<p>Your example Robin is an excellent one that, at one time, would have been dealt with in the commonsense manner you describe.  However, due to management constraints which are often argued on the grounds of &#8216;cost savings&#8217;, staff now have to follow set procedures instead of using their instincts.  Failure to do so leaves them open to possible dismissal and they could even find themselves being sued if it went wrong and they had not followed &#8216;orders&#8217;.  </p>
<p>In the example you have given it is patently obvious that not only has en elderly patient suffered unnecessarily but costs have also increased.  So what happened to letting professionals get on with the job that they have been trained for and are paid to do?  Maybe the problem is the training regime has been cut to save money?</p>
<p>I will finish on a positive note though with this tale.  My brother&#8217;s 8 year old granddaughter went into Boots the Chemist for an eye test a couple of weeks ago because she was having problems with her sight.  The optometrist got part way through the test and said to her mum she was very concerned about what appeared to be pressure on the optic nerves. </p>
<p>She asked permission to phone the local hospital. The hospital accepted her immediately and gave her an MRI which detected a tumour on the left side of her brain.  The hospital immediately contacted a hospital in Bristol: that hospital being a specialist Neurological/Children’s unit.  </p>
<p>By 0100 she was in an ambulance which arrived at Bristol around 0300hrs.   She was given pre-op preparation and by mid-day was in theatre for a 4 hour op.   The surgeon removed a tumour – they think cleanly – the size of a marble.   The little girl has made remarkable recovery.</p>
<p>She is now home – less than a week in hospital!</p>
<p>The worry now centres around the results of the biopsy; which has been sent to Memphis Tennessee for analysis!??</p>
<p>Depending upon the grade of the tumour she could face chemo for some time.  It is possible that, if the tumour is the lowest grade, there will be no further action; other than monitoring.</p>
<p>It must be said that the NHS pulled out all the stops for the little girl (just 8).  Within 24 hours of diagnosis the tumour had been removed.  All that is evident is a small plaster on the side of her head.</p>
<p>As with the police service there is much good work going on, it is that good work that should be fostered and encouraged and that is done by putting the right people in the job with the right training in the first place and then by allowing those highly qualified professionals to do the job which they have the knowledge and expertise for.  </p>
<p>Paying for that knowledge and experience should not be the worry for them as saving lives carries a big enough burden.  The cost of saving lives and caring is somebody elses problem but whoever decides on those budgets should remember what the NHS, (and police service), exists for in the first place.</p>
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