Questions you wish you had asked your parents.

Family QuoteHave you ever thought to yourself, “I wish I had asked mum/dad about………. I certainly have. For instance what did my dad do before he joined the Royal Navy.

As a result I have made a box for my children and grand children about me and my life. This includes old photo’s and films as well as a 54 page document (so Far) of my life story that includes everything I know about me and my siblings, parents and grandparents.

I was encouraged to do this by my son.

Would it be a good idea for us all to do something similar.

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Victorian women criminals’ records show harsh justice of 19th century

Victorian justice records which show how the harsh punishments were given to women criminals – such as five years in jail for stealing one rasher of bacon – have been published online for the first time.

Victorian women criminals' records show harsh justice of 19th century

Elizabeth Murphy (left) was sentenced to 5 years hard labour for stealing an umbrella and Mary Richards was jailed for 5 years for stealing 130 oysters.

More than 4,400 parole records and 500 mug shots of Victorian criminals have been made available by Ancestry.co.uk

They provide an astonishing insight into the way justice was imposed during the late 1800s.

Those convicted of lesser crimes such as theft, and ‘domestic housebreaking’ often felt the full force of law.

Examples include Elizabeth Murphy, a19-year-old Elizabeth was sentenced to five years of hard labour in prison and seven years of police supervision for stealing an umbrella. She served three years of her sentence before receiving parole in 1887.

Dorcas Mary Snell, 45, was sentenced to five years of imprisonment with hard labour in 1883 for the theft of a single piece of bacon. She was paroled two years later.

Mary Richards was sentenced to five years in 1880 at age 59 for stealing 130 oysters valued at eight shillings, which were the property of John Tyacke. Mary served almost all of sentence, receiving parole in 1885.

The records also detail the lengthy, unforgiving sentences given to women who procured abortions, including Mary Billingham who was sentenced to 20 years of imprisonment and hard labour in 1875.

It would appear that age was not necessarily taken into consideration when sentences were passed.

The youngest female in the records, 11-year-old Ann McQuillan, was convicted in Perth and sentenced to four years in prison for ‘theft by housebreaking’.

Ann is just one of 115 girls under the age of 18 who feature in the collection.

In contrast, the oldest convict in the records is 76-year-old Ann Dalton who was convicted for stealing ‘two sheets’ in 1863.

She was sentenced to five years imprisonment and served three of those before receiving parole in 1866.

Meanwhile, the records detail a number of violent crimes which women were convicted of.

Mary Morrison, a 40-year-old servant, threw sulphuric acid over her estranged husband for not paying her weekly allowance, shouting ‘take that – I’ll make you worse than you are’. She received five years in 1883 but served only three.

Elizabeth Ann Staunton, 29, was convicted of the murder of Harriet Staunton in 1877. Elizabeth was spared the death penalty and instead sentenced to life. She was granted parole six years later.

While early criminals were often sentenced to transportation, later records, predominately those post-1860, indicate a prison sentence had become the preferred punishment.

This was because Australian free settlers had become increasingly angry about having to compete with convicts for jobs.

Those who did receive transportation often saw their sentences overturned and were instead jailed and subsequently paroled.

This was the case for Mary Daly, who was sentenced to 15 years transportation for theft in 1855 but was instead incarcerated in Brixton prison until her parole in 1862.

In a world-first, Ancestry.co.uk, the family history website, today published the UK, Licences of Parole for Female Convicts, 1853-1887 online.

The original records are held by The National Archives.

Dan Jones, International Content Director at Ancestry.co.uk, said: “Crime is more often associated with men however these intriguing records shed light on some rather colourful female lawbreakers of their day.

“Given the petty nature of many of their crimes, it also serves as a reminder of how harsh our judicial system was not so very long ago.”

“With so many historical records – including criminal records – now available online, it has never been a better time to start exploring your family’s history.”

The collection was unveiled today at ‘Who Do You Think You Are? LIVE’ – the world’s largest family history event, which is being held at London’s Olympia from the February 25 – 27.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/8345046/Victorian-women-criminals-records-show-harsh-justice-of-19th-century.html

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THE DAY I GAVE CAMERON’S STRONGARM TO THE KGB

The partition of Germany after the Second World War, and the relationships between the four major powers, is well documented.  However, little is known of the relationship between the members of the Allied Kommandatura – the military governments set up to rule over what had been the German capital of Berlin.

One of the terms of the Yalta agreement between Great Britain, the United States of America, the Soviet Union and France, was that Berlin was to be non-political in that it would have its status as the capital of Germany removed.  The Western countries designated Bonn as the capital of what became the Federal German Republic whilst the Soviet Union designated Potsdam.

However, once the war was won and Germany was divided between the three regions in the West and the Soviet controlled eastern area, it was announced by the Soviet authorities that East Berlin was to be the capital of the newly formed German Democratic Republic.  Protests were ignored and so it remained that capital until shortly after the demolition of the Berlin wall in 1989.

My story, however, begins a few years before the demolition of that Wall, when I was a member of the British Army posted to a department of the British Military Government.  Despite its title, the BMG was a Foreign and Commonwealth Office run organisation, staffed mainly by civil servants though headed by the British Military Governor, a Major General.  His deputy was a political appointment and was known as Her Majesty’s Minister in Berlin and he was also the deputy to the British Ambassador located in Bonn.

Because of the Soviet politicisation of East Berlin and the construction of both the ‘iron curtain’ and the Berlin Wall, the Western Governments had an agreement with the West German authorities that their armed forces would remain in Berlin and have some say in the protection and security of it.  This agreement was based to some extent, on the fear of a repeat of the blockade of Berlin by the Soviet authorities in 1947, possibly followed by an invasion by GDR troops to ‘liberate’ the remainder of their capital. 

To maintain the status quo, it was necessary to have frequent contact and liaison between the four nations.  The military governments of the French, American and British met on a regular basis, both officially and socially, with staff of all ranks making friends with their foreign counterparts.  With the Soviet authorities, it was a different matter.  Naturally, or traditionally, being a combination of suspicious, paranoid and mistrusting, meetings with members of the Soviet Military Government were either at formal conferences or meetings or, very rarely, at ‘official’ social functions held under very controlled circumstances.  With the British, French and Americans, certain Senior Non Commissioned Officers were often invited to these functions through only Soviet officers of at least Major rank were allowed to attend.

It was at one of these functions when I found myself in a group containing three Soviet officers – they very rarely were allowed in pairs and never ever alone in case they tried to claim political asylum or offered to sell secrets (I did say they were paranoid, suspicious and mistrusting).  It was normal Soviet policy that one of the three officers would not be known to either of the other two, thereby enhancing the suspicion that he was there to keep an eye on his colleagues, who may also be there to keep an eye on him!

For obvious reasons, politics was a taboo subject at these functions and we spoke of our relative countries, towns and cities we had visited, sport and even German beer.  One of the Russian officers, who I shall call Major Orlov and who I knew to be an officer of the KGB, the Soviet State Security Service, mentioned that he missed the dark Russian beer he used to drink at home as it was very difficult to get hold of in East Germany, even through ‘unofficial’ channels.  During this conversation I happened to mention that my home town was on the North East coast of England and the officer mentioned that his family lived in the north east sector of Moscow (very few Soviet officers were allowed to bring their families with them on postings outside Russia).

I thought no more about this until I attended a social function in the run up to Christmas where I again spoke to Major Orlov who gave me a bottle of Russian Stolychnaya vodka, which had a very high proof rating of 40%.  He smiled as he told me as a good communist, he could not celebrate a religious festival such as Christmas but there was surely a Russian festival around the same time we could celebrate, in which the exchanging of gifts was a part,.  I felt rather cheap as I gave him a selection of American Country and Western cassette tapes – something highly prized amongst the Soviet military, partly because they can sell them on for quite high sums when back in Russia.

Still feeling guilty over the quality of my present, I felt I could do better and remembered his earlier comment about missing the dark beer he liked so much.  I realised I could not lay my hands on that particular drink but my home town produces a dark beer all of its own.

There are many famous beers brewed in the north of England, from Newcastle Brown Ale and Exhibition down to Yorkshire’s Theakston’s Old Perculiar.  Less well known than it should be, is Camerons Strongarm, a dark, deliciously malty flavoured, bitter, brewed in my home town of Hartlepool since 1865.  My aim, therefore was to obtain a box of 24 bottles of Camerons Strongarm for the next Kommandatura meeting in 3 months time, though how to do it was a problem. 

I was not allowed to write a letter using my civilian Berlin address as this may entail the letter going through the East German postal authorities so my military address, using the British Forces Post Office, had to be used.  Unfortunately, I did not have the address of the brewery so could not write to them direct as there was a possibility of the letter going astray.

What I did was write to my father, who lived in Hartlepool, explained what I wanted to do and enclosed a letter to the Manager of Camerons Brewery asking if I could either buy Camerons Strongarm in Berlin or West Germany through a local distributor or whether it would be possible to have some shipped to me and what the cost would be.

My father always said that he was no one special but I had known for some time that, through his skill at Lawn Bowls, he had made the acquaintances of a wide variety of people.  A letter from him mentioned that he played bowls with one of the managers of the brewery, would call down and see him at his work and see what could be done.  I should have known!

A further week later, I received a letter from Camerons brewery and what it contained renewed my faith in human nature, the respect that residents of the north east have for the military, and the influence my father, ‘who is no one special’, has on people.  A box of 24 bottles could be shipped and trucked, through normal channels to a military postal sorting office in Hannover where it would then be sent by road to the British Forces Post Office headquarters in Berlin.  All I had to do was collect it.  The cost?  The brewery would use this as a possible future transportation project and the only cost to me would be what I would pay for it in UK.  The letter added that as my father had agreed to give a bowls lesson to the manager’s son, I could consider the beer paid for.

At the next meeting of the Allied Kommandatura it was with great pleasure that I was able to present a box of 24 bottles of Camerons Strongarm to a KGB spy.  I never met Major Orlov again but word did filter down that he had asked the Military Commission of the Russian embassy in London if someone could travel to a small town on the north east coast of England on a shopping trip.  Whether this was true or not, or whether he was successful, I have no idea.

And so it was that I had the privilege of giving a Russian spy some Camerons Strongarm. 

A slight twist in the tale was that when I went to collect the box, I found that there were two!  In the documents was a letter recognising the fact that trying to arrange this shipment must be thirsty work!  I wonder if my Dad had to give a second lesson?

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How we traced our family history

Jim – Julie has written up a piece about how our family history was researched, hope this assists you in your search: -

 In some ways it’s difficult to give advice about starting family tree research because I don’t know how much info you have.  I prefer to write everything down and draw my family tree whereas Denis relies on the computer to file the info and create the family tree.  Both have merits.  The computer programme is efficient at stating the relationships and it’s lovely to add in photos of your relatives as you find them, it brings it to life for me.  I spend ages just looking at my written family tree and thinking about where the gaps are and what lines of enquiry I can pursue next.

If you have relatives who are still alive and can remember details then plunder their memories as soon as you can, but a word of caution, do not believe everything they say.  Denis’s maternal Aunt Kit told us that her mother was born within the sound of Bow Bells and ran with a hoop across a frozen River Thames.  However after research her mother had been born in Brighton and lived briefly in London!

Depending on how much info you have already there are two avenues to follow. 

I was a member of Ancestry.com and would recommend them.  They have masses of info, which will take you ages to go through but is highly rewarding.  The census starts at 1841 so for info before that you have to go to parish records, some of which are on Ancestry but it’s more likely that you will have to visit a Records Office for the detail.  Ancestry does not have access to Scottish records so the site Robin has suggested would be your best bet if you have Scottish roots. 

 The added bonus with Ancestry is that other people researching family names donate their research on to that website.  The public family trees are of some use but the really serious people keep their family trees private and you can email them through Ancestry to ask questions or for access to their records.  I have had some really helpful and friendly contact this way, even finding out about a past relative that was transported to Australia remarried and had four more children. 

A note of caution though, with Ancestry some of the transcribing is wrong so you have to watch that.  I knew that Denis’ granddad was a miller living in Halstock for the 1891 census but I couldn’t find him.  I went through the complete census for Halstock and found him with his family at the mill but someone had transcribed his name as Lammer instead of Turner! 

Some of the writing is pretty diabolical on the records, especially some of the parish records.  I made over a hundred corrections to their records on Ancestry so that someone else wouldn’t have my problem in the future. 

The second avenue is getting to know the appropriate Records Office.  They have more detailed info once you have the bare bones and need to get down to the nitty-gritty.  The staff are on the whole very helpful and can point a novice in the right direction.

We spent ages walking around graveyards looking for Denis’ family’s gravestones and had many a pleasant lunch in some tiny village in deepest Dorset.  So I can recommend that too. 

I am addicted to family tree research.  I love it.  I have gone as far as I can without revisiting the Record Offices in the UK.  We live in France and whenever we go back to the UK our time is understandably taken up with seeing our family and friends but I do hanker to go off to a Record Office or two.  As we are compiling both our trees it means visiting Dorset, Somerset and Devon for Denis’ ancestors, and Leicester, Derby, Nottingham and Lincolnshire for me, plus a trip to the main office at Kew is a must too. 

I hope this is of some help.

Julie T

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Just to add a couple of other things, a very good free family research website is found here http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp   It is run by the Latter Day Saints, the Mormons, who have huge family tree resources.  My understanding of the faith is that they do it to increase the size of the church so if you donate any of your information to them your ancestors will immediately become Mormons… 

Also as Julie mentions we use Family Tree software.  There are a lot of different ones out there and we have tried some but find that they are normally biased towards America.  We now use Family Historian4 and I thoroughly recommend it as it has a UK bias and has some excellent tools including the ability to insert photos etc.  If you already have a file in Gedcom, (the normal code for family trees), with another programme Family Historian4 will easily transfer all your info. 

Have a look at http://www.family-historian.co.uk/ where you can download a free trial and give it a go.

Finally, one other thing to consider is membership of a Family Tree Society as they have lots of hints, books and information plus they often have fairs.  I am a member of the Somerset and Dorset FHS and this is their website – http://www.sdfhs.org/ 

Not sure which areas you will be researching so have a look at the Counties you want and see if they have a society.  For instance there is a West Surrey FHS here – http://www.wsfhs.org/  and an East Surrey one here – http://www.eastsurreyfhs.org.uk/

Have a look also at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/

So Jim, here is your starter for ten.  Just for a chuckle I typed into Google  ’Findlay Family Tree’ and got this lot back – http://www.google.fr/search?q=Findlay+Family+Tree&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=&rlz=1I7SKPB_en&redir_esc=&ei=B_GATK2OK8u04Ab979jTCw  you never know, a relative may have done a lot for you already!

You obviously have Scottish roots -    

 and this apparently is your Family Crest -    

Good luck, you will get hooked!

Regards,

Denis

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Tracing family history – advice and guidance

I’ve received the following from Jim Findlay, ex-Byfleet:

My wife is showing an interest in ‘Family Trees’ and wants to get into it. Any tips or guidance. I seem to remember someone doing something in O&B some time ago.

I’ve dropped him a note explaining briefly about the existence of the online data from the Registers of Scotland at:
http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
… but as all of my ancestors are/were Scottish, I can’t help him with any advice about tracing English ancestry.

If you are able/willing to offer Jim any advice and/or support, please post it here on the blog, where it will be very welcome and available for all as a reference. As with all members’ e-mail addresses, they can’t be passed on without the relevant member’s permission, but messages can be passed on if required. I’m at:

Robin.

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When men were men …

My brother sent me an email today to tell me about the steam hauled trains being run from Waterloo to Weymouth.  As he still lives in Wareham he said, ‘Great to hear this going through Wareham last week: one of a series through the school holidays’.  http://www.theworldisyouroyster.com/london/orient_express_tours.htm

He knew I would be interested as I started work on the railway on leaving school at 15 years of age in 1960 and was privileged to work with some fine men, (many sadly now gone), on the footplate until the end of steam in 1967.

When steam went my job was in danger and in 1969 I transferred to Dorking as a Driver on the electric trains in and out of London.  However, this was not the job I joined so I left and joined the police.  The rest, as they say, is history, (including the fact that John Worgan always called me ‘Casey Jones’)……

The enthusiasts who work so hard to preserve these fine locos do a great job but it makes me chuckle to see the amount of people it takes to coal, water and fire these engines when there used to be just two, the driver and the fireman.  Also, everywhere these engines now go they have a diesel loco assisting them just in case of breakdown so in truth these engines, (nor the crew), are working as hard as they used to but then they are old girls now, (the engines not the crew).

The engine they are using on the special is 35028 Clan Line.  This was a Weymouth engine in the mid sixties and one that I have worked on many a time.

My brother’s email brought back the memories of working fast trains, like the Weymouth to Waterloo, Channel Islands boat train.  This train was heavy work hauling twelve coaches out of Weymouth up the steep climb to Dorchester, (over 400 tons).  It was then a very fast run to Southampton with only one stop at Poole.  90 miles an hour on these engines felt like 190mph but rattling through places like Brockenhurst in the New Forest at 90 was something you never forgot.

Happy days although it does not seem 45 years ago….

The Channel Islands Boat Train climbing up from Weymouth in June 1967 with only a month left before all steam engines were withdrawn.

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